1,017 Customer Reviews over 26 pages
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- Dorset
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2024-01-25
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Previously with SSE and everything was fine.
Now with Origin and they're simply appalling in every respect.
Will be leaving.
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- Location
- Draycott
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2020-09-10
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I wish to cancel my order with origin i was told I would get a installation dates within in 4 days still not got one as I am still within 14 days I wish to cancel service is abysmalbeen on the telephone over a hour trying to speak to someone with no luck and having read all the reviews I wont be bothering .
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- Dudley
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2018-01-24
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I've been with a few different ISP's over the years and Origin are by far the worse.
I pay for 76mb fibre broadband. I've just submitted them a reading of 0.5mb on the download and 1.3mb on the upload, mind you that was quite fast - it's been as low as 0.13mb download speed.
This has been going on since I had the contract and I've spent countless hours on the phone, talking of which I've now been waiting for over an hour. Again.
This is how an Origin Broadband customer spends their evening.
The only positive thing I can say is it's UK call centres (based in Doncaster) and the staff are very friendly.
I used to be with Sky and I'm hoping I can get out of this contract and go back with them even thou they are slightly more expensive.
Currently looking to make a complaint with the ombudsman of which I've never done in my life but that should give you an idea of how bad it is.
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- Location
- Dumfries
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2018-08-19
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I can't lie, I've had great broadband with origin it's fast enough for me I use between 6 and 10 devices tv, iPad ect.. but this month 2 payments have been taken out not really sure why and I've checked all payments and they have all been paid I know it's not alot of money but it's not a service I want to be paying double for?
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- Dumfries and Galloway
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2023-09-15
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Avoid this company! Horrible experience and extremely rude customer service. We were switched over from SSE to origin and had no contact from them. We phoned them as our internet wasn’t working anymore and got a rude unprofessional woman on the phone, they said they had sent out letters and when my partner said we hadn’t received any of them he got called a liar and told “you sound like someone that just runs away from their debt”. Horrible unprofessional company.
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- Location
- Dundee
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2017-04-05
- Comments
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Working perfectly from day one for about half a year now. Speeds are sometimes even higher than what we pay for, but never less. (Depends on time and day)
Had to contact them only once and it was to make sure when technician is coming, so I contacted them using chat on their website and everything was smooth like butter. Only thing you should think of is if you need more expensive router, because we went with cheaper one and in home with 4 people, that means 4 computers, 4 phones, router sometimes can't handle this and reboot. Otherwise perfect and highly recommended.
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- Location
- Dunoon
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2019-07-01
- Comments
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I switched to origin a month ago and I can't ask for better service amazing broadband connection and speed I live in Scotland I will be recommending to friends and family
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- Location
- Durham
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2017-01-14
- Comments
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This company is an absolute joke!
I moved to a new area and needed fiber, on finding a deal I rang to see if I could go for the deal, the lady I spoke with ( Rachel ) told me everything I wanted to hear and said I would have no activation fees, within a couple of days I received a text to say £48 pounds would be taken from my account I rang to find out what for and was told it was my activation fee??? I refused to pay it and asked them to look at the notes of all I had been sold they then kindly offered I pay the £48 in instalments, which I kindly refused and asked to close my account, it was then that I found out they don't even cover my area for fiber and I had been signed up for regular broadband but paying the amount I had agreed??? I am currently awaiting the money they did take off of me to be returned and after cancelling the broadband with no apologies or explanation as to why I had been misled I had to phone the company two more times to get conformation that the account was actually closed!
I would seriously avoid the company they are a complete waste of time!
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- Location
- Durham
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2018-07-27
- Comments
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Fantastic service! While it isn’t the quickest, the broadband is absolutely ideal for my needs (at such a cheap price too) and I haven’t had any issues with reliability of the service. Customer service is outstanding - really friendly, helpful staff who genuinely care about their customers.
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- Location
- East Horsley
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2020-03-23
- Comments
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Agreed to switch to them and keep the same number, now into two weeks since I changed and they still haven’t transferred the number. Tried email/telephone/live chat, none of which has evoked a response. Have spent literally hours and hours trying to communicate with them without success.
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- Location
- East Midlands
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2017-11-25
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Just signed up for an extension to my contract. I have been pleasantly surprised by the service, price and quality and on price they beat BT hands down! Their staff are excellent and keen to help. I've had a year with them now and I am surprised by the number of negative reviews on this site. Good on yer Origin!
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- east sussex
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2021-02-05
- Comments
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Not used....due to poor business practice
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- Eastbourne
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2019-08-07
- Comments
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If you are wise you will avoid this disreputable company. Their promises are not to be relied on and their broadband sub standard. Be warned ....
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- EASTBOURNE
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2016-12-15
- Comments
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On the whole I've been very pleased with Origin. Only one problem whilst I've been with them and that was caused by Openreach wire failure outside the house.
I'd have to say that Origin's customer service in dealing with this issue was very good indeed. A British person at the end of the phone who actually listened when I explained the problem and didn't spend hours making me repeat pointless tests as has been my experience with non UK call handlers at TalkTalk in the past. It was so refreshing.
Line speed is not fantastic, however it is just the same as all my previous providers, not surprising since it's using the same Openreach infrastructure, so really not Origin's fault.
On the whole I'm very happy with Origin thus far.
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- Location
- Eastbourne
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2021-01-13
- Comments
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Absolutely the worst Fibre Optic Broadband on the market. Very choppy and unreliable speeds during the day and nothing special at night either. Only fibre Optic I've ever had that can't even livestream anything without buffering. Very shady customer service as well.
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- Location
- Edinburgh
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2021-03-11
- Comments
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I am honestly absolutely livid with this company. For any students who know how bad Circuit Laundry is as a company, well, Origin is worse hands down. Absolutely abysmal customer service including flat out lying about additional fees, often extremely slow responses, never able to talk to me taking into account previous issues so everytime I had to start all over again. Slow wifi speeds and wifi that cut off. Never had any advice that helped to solve this issue and never had any offer from them to come round and actually take a look at the problems themselves. Often waited 30+ minutes for each response from their live chat aswell, several times i waited over 12 hours for the same "live chat" only to be given the same piece of advice every single time which i told them every single time did not improve my speeds at all. They do not allow me to cancel my contract early and i cannot legally cancel early under the precident of false advertisement and insufficient speeds/service because Origin as a company publicly do not comply with the up-to-date UK broadband consumer rights. They are literally a scam company who know they are ripping people off and its disgusting that they are allowed to offer their "services" at all to unwitting customers. Wasted so many hours and hundreds of pounds with them after being tricked by an employee of theirs on the phone into signing a contract with them. Since eventually I had to buy a new contract with BT to run simultaneously with this line as this one was essentially useless and I could not cancel or claim compensation. Never in my life been so angry at a company.
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- EDINBURGH
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2017-02-28
- Comments
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Having experienced miserable service from other broadband providers, I am in a position to make a meaningful comparison of service providers and to provide informed comment on Origin Broadband. I have no hesitation and no reservation whatsoever in stating that I have found doing business with Origin's ultra-courteous and ultra-efficient employees an absolute delight and most refreshing. Origin's Broadband gives me not just a Very Strong strength signal but always an Excellent strength signal even though I am on WiFi. The only reason I have given Origin Broadband four stars for speed rather than the five stars that they probably merit is because I am spoilt, so to speak, by the fact that at my place of work we have superfast IT as befits a scientific establishment. I am more than happy to very highly recommend Origin Broadband to all and sundry.
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- Location
- Edinburgh
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2018-02-13
- Comments
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I was with Sky Broadband for several years but became fed up with them offering better deals to new customers than, loyal customers so chose to move supplier. Origin great pricing and £35 cashback offer through Quidco attracted me to sign up, the sign up process was very straightforward but that’s where the good stuff ends.
I’ve detailed below a summary of the problems, and hassle which I have had to deal with whilst being a customer of Origin Broadband for just over 2 months! My service still hasn’t been resolved, I am now without broadband as I am using a personal hotspot through my iPhone!
Switching line to Origin Broadband;
a. I received an e-mail on the day of connection (29th November 2017) advising of a delay in getting connected.
b. I was told to expect regular updates
c. I sent an e-mail to Origin on 30th November 2017 requesting an update.
d. On 4th December 2017 I used Twitter to request a response to my previous e-mail!
e. I received a response advising my broadband was connected on 29th November!? I was away from home so I couldn’t check.
2. No internet connection
a. 5.12.2017: I returned home, I was unable to connect to the internet via WiFi or wired connection.
b. 5.12.2017: I replied to the previous twitter message to advise the broadband wasn’t working
c. 5.12.2017: I reconfigured my router following instructions I received via DM on Twitter, broadband still not working!
d. 5.12.2017: I was asked to call the tech team on 03300 24 1777
e. 5.12.2017: I spoke with tech support who were unable to resolve.
f. 8.12.2017: Received an e-mail advising the fault is still being investigated.
g. 9.12.2017: I received an e-mail asking me to plug in a landline handset and dial 17070 and check if the landline is crossed. They provided on instructions on how to identify this.
h. 9.12.2017: I purchased a landline phone and dialled 17070, No faults were found. I replied to the previous e-mail to advise.
i. 11.12.2017: E-mail sent chasing response to my previous e-mail.
j. 11.12.2017: I called chasing a response to my previous e-mail, after a long phone call I was finally able to access the internet.
3. Slow connection
a. 11.12.2017: I e-mailed Origin at 23:06 advising my broadband connection was extremely slow: 5.70mbps download / 0.68mbps upload.
b. 11.12.2017: I messaged Origins social media team on twitter advising of the slow speeds at 23:30
c. 12.12.2017: speed improved during the day, connection became extremely slow again in the evening.
d. 13.12.2017: Received an e-mail from Laura Paterson advising she’d try to call me.
e. 13.12.2017: Returned Laura’s call, was passed to her colleague as her computer wasn’t working. Her colleague apologised for the poor service, I vented my frustration and advised the service is causing me a lot of difficulty. Laura’s colleague (didn’t get her name) said she’d call back in 7 days to check how things are.
f. 13.12.2017: I was asked to run a speed test by connecting the router through the open reach test port.
g. 13.12.2017: Issue was escalated to customer relations team
4. Connection dropping intermittently
a. My internet connection regularly drops but often reconnects itself or, will reinstate after the router has been rebooted, apart from the following occasions where I required assistance (these are the only occasions which I have a record of, there is more!);
i. 19/12/2017, 20/12/2017, 21/12/2017, 22/12/2017 (on two occasions), 25/12/2017, 26/12/2017, 28/12/2017, 29/12/2017
b. 20.12.2017: I received a telephone call from complaints team asking how things are, they noticed my connection improved yesterday. I confirmed my connection has been ok for around 24 hours. The caller suggested calling me again in a week, due to the festive period I advised I wouldn’t be spending a lot of time at home so suggested calling in a fortnight (still waiting on the call).
c. 26.12.2017: I received an e-mail advising an engineer is required to resolve the fault, I replied with my preferred day / time.
d. 29.12.2017: I called to reinstate my connection as it dropped again, during the call I was advised an engineer will not be required. The advisor suspected my router might be faulty, a new router has been ordered.
e. 02.01.2018: I noticed the confirmation e-mail advising my new router had been dispatched did not have my flat number on it!
f. 03.01.2018: Luckily the post man recognised my name and delivered the router to my door.
g. 03.01.2018: New router is not working
h. 03.01.2018: Called tech support who reconfigured router settings.
i. 07.01.2018: Lost internet connection, called tech support; connection reinstated
j. 07.01.2018: Lost internet connection again
k. 09.01.2018: Lost internet connection, waited over an hour for someone to answer the phone, I gave up.
l. 09.01.2018: I messaged Origins social media and complaints team, no reply received but connection was reinstated in the morning.
m. 10.01.2018: Social media team advised previous night’s outage was due to maintenance.
My connection is still intermittent and it appears nobody is making any attempt to provide me with a satisfactory service. I have spent approximately 6 hours on the phone to Origin trying to resolve connection issues, not all of the calls are detailed above.
I detailed all of the above in a letter to Origin providing them with my 14 days notice to cancel my contract as they have breached their obligations. I received a letter from Leanne Whittington offering to have their tech support team to resolve within 14 days before allowing me to end my contract without charge, this is unacceptable as Origin have knowingly allowed me to receive a terrible service for over 2 months! I emailed the managing director, Oliver Bryssau directly and still await a response.
This is the worst company I have ever dealt with, initially I thought I must be unlucky but appears from other reviews here, Yell, Google, ISP review sites, and social media suggest this is their standard level of service.
I now want to shout with my highest voice at how terrible this company is!
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- Location
- Edinburgh
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2024-03-30
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Terrible service. They never respond to emails, even official complaints, and it's impossible to contact them on the phone. They don't even provide you with basic information, such as the term of your contract.
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- Edinburgh
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2021-02-18
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They are a company of crooks who will straight up lie to get you to sign up and then once you are past the initial 14 days and cannot cancel anymore they offer no meaningful assistance whatsoever, the waiting times for customer service are ridiculous, the communication within the company to help solve customer issues is almost zero - mostly they just wont ever get back to you - especially if its about low speeds. Cancelling their contract does exactly the same as continuing it for its full term. Despite the fact they told me straight up that i would be able to cancel for a fee
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- Location
- Edinburgh
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2017-07-28
- Comments
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Positives:
Static IP without the ties and costs of being business broadband.
Brian Blessed voicing the support calling system.
Negatives:
Lack of functionality and diversity for communications on the customer dashboard.
Took 20 days to arrange Openreach appointment and failed to deliver router on go live time despite chasing before hand, managed to configure old ISP hardware to use as a work-around. Had support fob us off with the classic "It'll be there tomorrow" nonsense.
Not terribly impressed so far, we'll see how they get on closer to the cool off expirey.
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- Edinburgh
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2017-08-02
- Comments
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6 Days since my go live date (with their 1st router a day late)
Positives:
The staff are friendly and I feel sorry for them, I do hope their next job is better than what they're doing now - seems horrible.
Negatives:
Where do I start?
The connection is slow when it's not experiencing random chap errors.
I'm on my 2nd DSL-N16 with no change in performance or issues.
I'm currently on my old ISP hardware as it seems fractionally better.
Customer service's system cut's you off when on hold and the voip/headsets they use seem troublesome half the time.
To book an engineer out to have the line checked took 7 phone calls spanning over 4 hours, however I've not been given a date or had anything confirmed yet - they've stated 48 hours but I'm not holding my breath.
I specified a static IP which they've provisioned twice and lost twice so far - I'm awaiting their third attempt.
My advice to you is to steer clear of Origin at all costs - the service and support capabilities appear thin on the ground and strained at best. The support analysts are brilliant and are helpful when they can be, with the only issue of the infrastructure at their disposal and the occasional faffing off.
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- Location
- Edinburgh
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2017-11-13
- Comments
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I have been pleasantly surprised with Origin service of Broadband. I signed up for it on the Monday and it was installed and up and running by Thursday. So far the speed has been pretty good when lasted tested
12.21 Mb Download speed
0.72Mb upload
37 ms ping time
I do live very central though near Meadowbank athletics track so do take that into consideration.
The customer service has overall been with good twice I have called and been answered within 5 minutes and the other two times between 15 and 30 minutes. The help centre is based in the Uk as well
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- Edinburgh
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2017-09-09
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Absolute scammers! Do not be fooled by their cheap prices as they'll find every little single way to add more to your bill. In the end it'll work out costing you more than some of the bigger broadband providers. They charged my card without me ever agreeing to the extra payments each month and when I tried to ask for a refund they'll point to the small prints on the website, which I can not find. Terrible customer service as well, takes about 40 mins to get through to a very rude woman on the phone telling me there's nothing she can do for me. Speed wise it's not fast enough to load a single YouTube video and good luck trying to watch a movie without it pausing every two minutes. Not to mention that the internet keeps disconnecting 3 times a day.
Avoid avoid!
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- Edinburgh
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2023-07-28
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Internet always playing up have to switch my box on and of constantly paying £25 and it hardly ever works called them and they said there would be a call out charge not my fault there internet is terrible changing company had enough of a bad service
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- Edinburgh
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2023-11-11
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Absolutely shocking business practices. Scamming people by providing a shockingly poor quality service for huge costs. I’m surprised they are still about. Scammed me out of money by not providing a service that was fit for purpose. Receiving a laughable 4bpm and told this is all I could get and they wouldn’t even try to improve it. Also when asked if I could cancel they said yes but 28 days and payment in full. Haha for something that’s not fit for purpose, I don’t think so. Reported to trading standards.
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- Edinburgh
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2017-09-14
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I ordered fibre optic from Origin nearly a month ago, and I still haven't received it. I've had no communication from the company, other than myself contacting them asking what the hell is going on. The people on the phone are very friendly, but I can't say they have been very helpful because I was told I was receiving my router "guaranteed the next day". Two days later I still haven't received it, I've phoned them and have been told it's because my Live Date hasn't been set yet. Well it's been a month Origin, what's the hold up? I had an engineer round yesterday for what I thought was my Live Date but have only discovered today after phoning enquiring about my router that that was just for my phoneline, not my broadband.
There's been no communication from them and I'm severely fed up. It's incredibly hard to set up everything you need to set up when you move into a new home without the use of the internet. It was the first thing I sorted out and it's now the last thing to be fixed.
I was recommended Origin from a family member but I would not recommend them to anyone else.
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- Edmonton
- Reviewing
- Origin
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- 2020-03-13
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- Elstree
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2021-04-07
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Please avoid this cowboy outfit at all costs, ive read through some of the reviews here, it looks like we've all experienced awful service, ive reported them to the ombudsman
Awful awful company dont go near them
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- England
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2021-05-11
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awful wifi. Always get cut out in microsoft teams calls due to internet problems, so over lockdown doing university studying from home has been extremely difficult. Painful download speeds. Customer services have no idea how to help and we can’t stop the contract because i’ve heard of so many people getting charged leaving fees.
awful company that shouldn’t exist. DO NOT GET THIS WIFI
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- Eseex
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2018-04-05
- Comments
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The worse supplier ever
I would not recommend this company to my worse enemy
Rite from the start super slow service
Tech support unable to help
Customer service not willing to help
No point Emailing all you get it thanks for your email with no questions answered
The main reason is the internet is brought thought talk talk
The company refused to own up to the problem but happy to take my money
Getting that back is like getting blood from a stone
3 months down the line I am still waiting for my refund
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- Essex
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2018-03-20
- Comments
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It's a common thing with Origin, dropout after dropout on broadband. When it's up the speed is maybe 2Mb on a good day but it forever drops out so not much use. Their billing philosophy is naff, charging a month up front before connecting and then charging a high rate for a partial month after connection plus the next month in advance. I'm giving up after suffering for 12 months and expect a battle getting a refund for what I've paid in advance. It's cheap but still not worth it because it's so unreliable
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- Essex
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2017-07-22
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I have been considering changing my broadband supplier and, after reading the seemingly good offer from Origin, I sent them an e-mail detailing exactly what my requirements are and asking I hey could supply me the service that I need. They did not have the courtesy to reply to my e-mail and, after reading other consumer reviews, I would not touch them with a bargepole!
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- ESSEX
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2018-05-18
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Avoid at all costs !!! You can never get through to this company. They take money and send bills even after cancelling your contract. Very poor customer service.
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- Essex
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2018-09-28
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No service was provided and I was promised a refund for my years broadband paid for in advance. Still waiting after 8 weeks. First it was going to be a cheque but was told had to wait up to four weeks for it to be processed. Next it was going to be a bank transfer that never arrived.
Customer services are truly hopeless
I wouldn't use Origin again if you paid me.
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- Essex
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2017-04-06
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- Essex
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2018-06-26
- Comments
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At beginning of June my internet disappeared - just thought it was usual(!) drop-out - 2 days later realised no phone-line either - after the usual 40 minutes wait using my mobile, they
investigated and said my line was 'slammed' by another provider. They would try to get it back and ring me straight back.
After 4 days of no contact, had to endure another 40 minute wait on my mobile, to be told they're still dealing with problem.
6 days later of no contact from them, another 40 minutes on my mobile. Hurrah, that day they were reconnecting me. Sure enough both internet and phone line appeared.
I asked for credit on my bill and they granted a reluctant £6 FROM the time I had reported problem TO THEM.
Towards end of month I realised I'd not had an inbound phone-call.
Rang my own number from mobile and received engaged signal!
Another 40 minutes (standard wait?) call, although from land-line this time.
TO BE TOLD MY PHONE NUMBER HAD BEEN CHANGED.
WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE.
It would take too long to express just how awful this company is IN ALL RESPECTS.
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- essex
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2017-03-02
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From the ouset communication extremly poor. Sent date for engineer to come, rang origin told them i cannot make that date, agreed to email me with another date (also took their direct email). heard nothing for over a week. When I emailed them they told me they had changed the date but they had not and was offering date i stated i could not do. i emailed this person back stating that I cannot do and proposed other dates -heard nothing. Engineer still came and i called them. I was told that i would be charged for the engineer to come out. I sent the email trail proving this was not my fault, they told me I had to wait 7 days for a decision to be made. I waited 7 days heard nothing, kept emailing but no one bothered to contact me. I got fed up and went through debitcard disputes and got my money back. Bear in mind I gave them £360 pounds up front for a 24 month contract which they very promptly took from my account - shame they don't treat their customers the same way! I have had my problems with Ips before but even after long waits on the phone, putting up with script talking, I was at least being communicated with and things did eventually get resloved. Origin do not communicate, do not try to reslove things promptly and do not follow up!!!!
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- Essex
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2019-08-15
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- Exeter
- Reviewing
- Origin
- Date
- 2023-07-24
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Despite occasionally providing internet access, this company is a total shambles.
Brought into their power without consent, I lament the random payments I have had removed from my bank over the last two months.
I cancelled my contract with SSE, as I was moving home, and have now had to research on my own who origin broadband actually is. I’ve never spoken to them, being cut off twice after being on hold for over an hour.
It is shameful that this kind of service can survive. I have no doubt that there are thousands, if not millions, just like me who have randomly lost hundreds of pounds to this company we’ve never heard of.
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